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# 6 turn out wiyh frog problems
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Author:  train guy [ Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:34 pm ]
Post subject:  # 6 turn out wiyh frog problems
I built a #6 ho scale switch track using 100 scale, I have it installed on layout but I am dealing with a shorting problem at the Frog. DCC runs through fine but as soon as loco hits frog it shorts out, will use another switch to describe how its set up.
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File comment: looking from right to left, the frog to the right is where its shorting.
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as said before DCC works.
Author:  train guy [ Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: # 6 turn out wiyh frog problems
Sorry about size of picture, first time
Author:  emccamey [ Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: # 6 turn out wiyh frog problems
If 'hitting the frog' causes a short - then the frog is wrongly energized from some point. The frog should be isolated and completely dead from the rails and powered only via some electrical contacts controlled by the point throw rod.

Check solder points and gaps. Make sure the PC ties are fully gaped appropriately and the rails on front and rear of the frog are fully gaped. If you are energizing frog with electrical contacts - then check wiring polarity.

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Author:  NYCfan [ Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: # 6 turn out wiyh frog problems
Train Guy,

The problem that I can see is that you have no gaps in the closure rails of the right switch machine just before the frog. Every frog on every switch MUST be electrically isolated from the track and fed seperately by some means of a switch. I think you will find that your shorting problem will disappear when you gap the closure rails. The reason DCC is "happy" up until your engine's wheels bridge the gap is because you probably have the frog rails properly insulated with gaps or plastic rail joiners and then the metal wheels bridge the frog gap and "Bam" short.

Hope this helps.
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